Why google penalty?
Hi Guys,
I am really confused, I have gone through the Google Guidelines and I cant find anything wrong with my site. I have submitted reconsideration requests but I still have a Google penalty. I admit, my site was borderline with keywords, but I have removed lots of keywords that may look like keyword stuffing. I also had an old account with LinkMarket, but this has since been canceled.
I have a shopping site www.icoste.com and received a penalty around 2 months ago. Now I understand that my site is an affiliate site, however I also offer product ratings, merchant ratings, reviews and comparisons so I wouldn’t say that it was a thin affiliate site.
I don’t know what is wrong and I have asked Google 5 times what is wrong, so that I can fix it, or even just take the site down if I am going to have a permanent penalty, but they only reply saying “we have reviewed your site and we’ll consider your request”, but I still have a penalty.
Can anyone here think of any reason why I have a penalty, and also why Google are not telling me the problem? I only want a quick message, for example: We believe your site is a thin affiliate site, or your site has been hacked, or you are keyword stuffing, etc etc.
Any ideas guys?
Thanks in advance.
Mike
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RAINBORICH
There’s no sign that your site is penalized. It’s just that you simply aren’t ranking as well as you expect. You’re fighting an uphill battle in many respects. You use a great deal of boilerplate content so your pages are all very similar. With hundreds of product categories, the thousands of individual product listing pages do not end up with enough positive ranking factors to compete with better sites. I’d suggest that you pare down your categories, pare down the ratio of boilerplate on individual pages, and create your own unique product descriptions for the items you feature and avoid using descriptions from the manufacturer and other websites.
One of the biggest problems you face is that people don’t search for “price comparison” all that often, and the category is dominated by some major players. So you may find it best to try to be a big fish in a small pond, where your current situation is just the opposite. Be the best site in some selected categories and make your main page focused on those categories. Let some internal pages handle the less important ones. Create a program to solicit product reviews from users so that you’ll have more unique and compelling content. Good luck!
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CHIPFAT
googling the text on your homepage shows that it isn’t unique
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&as_q=&as_epq=is+a+large+shopping+%26+price+comparison+site+that+helps+UK+consumers+compare+prices+on+millions+of+products.+Consumers+can+rate%2C+review+and+compare+prices+from+over+700+online+shops+all+from+one+site.+We+give+you+ratings+on+products+as+well+as+merchants+to+help+you+choose+where+to+buy+and+to+buy+the+cheapest+products.&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images
your sites probably not penalized but is probably stuck in a duplicate content hole (not penalty) i.e. most of your pages will be in ‘omitted results’
for example
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22Sunpatiens+are+a+new+breed+of+Busy+Lizzie+that+will+flourish+despite+dry+weather.+Fast+growing,+they+will+brighten+up+your+hanging+baskets,+patio+pots+and+troughs+with+an+abundance+of+large+glorious+blooms.%22&hl=en&lr=&filter=0
one of the problems when using affiliate xml/json/csv feeds is there’s 99999999999 million other sites using the same feeds with the same descriptions
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MIKE
Hi Guys,
Thanks very much for the replies, much appreciated. I understand where both of you are coming from….however….the site was performing really well, and then I got a drop in traffic (from 10k a day to around 2k a day), which may have been a penalty or may be some other factor, but then…i submitted a re-inclusion request because I thought it may have been a penalty and I got a reply back from Google advising that they have reviewed the site, within an hour of receiving that message from Google, my traffic went from 2k a day to 50 a day.
It is almost definitely a penalty, and a manual one at that! Now I dont know if the first drop in traffic was a penalty but this one definitely is. And Google will not tell me the problem. Now although there are many other price comparison sites out there, and a few better than mine like pricerunner etc, I still think I have credibility in the market, so I don’t think I deserve such a punishment. From looking at search terms such as “icoste compare” i am no-where near the top, where as i was number 1 before. I still rank number 1 for “icoste” and “icoste shopping” so im confused as to what my penalty actually is, but it definitely is one.
The only thing I can think of it that Google is trying to get rid of price comparison and affiliate sites in their index, so they are not removing my penalty. I can see the logic in some degree, however such a major penalty as this one is certainly not deserved.
Any other ideas about what is causing this penalty? I am worried that my site is blatantly going against the guidelines and I am just missing it. But I have checked it and checked it and I cant find anything wrong!
Hopefully someone can spot a problem.
Thanks Guys.
Mike
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Webmasters/thread?tid=7c0261b9a7416aa1&hl=en





